Finger in the Pie?

I’m sure everyone has heard by now about 28 year old Neil Finger, a coach at the Vancouver Cheer Academy, being arrested for having sex with one of the 16 year old cheerleaders. His friend David Chatman, another cheerleading coach, was arrested for the same thing four months earlier. Is this a new disturbing trend? I know in the past we’ve had our share of older teacher/younger student hookups that ended badly.

There are two things about this story that I find kind of disturbing. I think it’s just a little creepy to have a younger guy like that around 300 teenage girls wearing short skirts and doing a lot of handstands and splits. It just seems like shooting fish in a barrel as far as him eventually hooking up with one of the more adventurous cheerleaders. I’m not saying they’re all looking to get laid, but for god’s sake at least be a little realistic.

The other thing is his last name, “Finger.” How many double entendres can you come up with for this one? My first one was “Guess who got caught with his finger in the pie?” sort of Ted Casablanca style. His name just adds to the creep factor of the whole situation.

I challenge all of you to come up with your best snark on this loser.

40 Comments so far

  1. Banana Lee Fishbones (unregistered) on September 26th, 2007 @ 11:26 am

    This also showed up on VanPortlander, written by MB friend (and former MetBlogger himself) Aaron:

    http://www.vanportlander.com/cheerleader-coach-sexual-misconduct/

    And I have no suggestion until I can come up with something a tad more family friendly than I’ve got now. (:


  2. Aaron B. Hockley (unregistered) on September 26th, 2007 @ 11:30 am

    Just curious, if the guy had been 50 or 70 years old, would that have eased your worries?


  3. Lisa (unregistered) on September 26th, 2007 @ 11:46 am

    As a parent that had participated in the cheer program at VCA, I am offended that you make it sound like I as a parent should have not enrolled my daughters at his facility becasue he was a young man owner of the facility. I attended and watched every session that my daughters were at, and never once would I have reason to believe that I could possibly be putting them in harms way with a staff that could not be trusted. I think the recent events are unfortunate but I do not believe that gives justification for avoiding cheer programs that are lead by men.


  4. Kai (unregistered) on September 26th, 2007 @ 11:56 am

    I hear your opinions Lisa and Aaron, but how is it that within a four month period the same situation has happened twice? Same M.O.,age, cheerleading coaches. I find it really disturbing.

    You can take offense Lisa, but I know I would be a little unsettled if I noticed a trend like this happening with cheerleading coaches. Hopefully this is the end and parents can go back to feeling confident that their children are going to be safe after they are dropped off at the door, no matter what the age or sex of the coaching staff.


  5. Banana Lee Fishbones (unregistered) on September 26th, 2007 @ 12:04 pm

    I know this will shock some of you, but I was a cheerleader, and we had male coaches, and it wasn’t a big deal.

    I think what’s more disturbing is the general trend towards people in leadership positions for kids (troop leaders, coaches, etc) being the ones busted, whatever happened to just “that creepy guy at the end of the block”? Now it’s not just someone in a van offering candy, and that’s kind of scary too.

    No, still no PG rated headlines or comments yet.


  6. Hula (unregistered) on September 26th, 2007 @ 12:10 pm

    By your rationale, we should be even more afraid of a young male ob/gyn, especially if he’s attractive–given his proximity to “temptation.”

    These men are adults and as professionals they should have the ethics to not sleep with the girls they’re coaching. I don’t really see why you’re tying this to cheerleading specifically.

    (And I don’t really think it’s funny to make jokes, like finger in the pie, about these kinds of situations.)


  7. Daaaaave (unregistered) on September 26th, 2007 @ 12:20 pm

    Who wouldn’t have sex with a 16 year old cheerleader?


  8. Kevin (unregistered) on September 26th, 2007 @ 12:48 pm

    Banana Lee said:

    “I think what’s more disturbing is the general trend towards people in leadership positions for kids (troop leaders, coaches, etc) being the ones busted, whatever happened to just “that creepy guy at the end of the block”? Now it’s not just someone in a van offering candy, and that’s kind of scary too.”

    Actually – if you look at the stats – it never was the creepy guy at the end of the block, or the sinister ice cream man.

    By overwhelming numbers, it was (and is) Daddy, Stepdaddy, Uncle Diddlepants, and Mommy’s New Boyfriend.

    Once you get past the family, people in child leadership positions are #2. Strangers and stereotypical “perverts” are a fraction of the total.


  9. divebarwife (unregistered) on September 26th, 2007 @ 2:21 pm

    BLF was a cheerleader?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?


  10. Banana Lee Fishbones (unregistered) on September 26th, 2007 @ 2:29 pm

    I said it would be a shock. Try to hold it together Divebarwife. (:

    Kevin: I meant that it used to be those sorts of cases that got the press, now it’s this teacher and that troop leader and the other new boyfriend.


  11. Mike (unregistered) on September 26th, 2007 @ 2:53 pm

    The solution to all of this is simple: Gay male cheerleading coaches. No risk of sexual improprieties, and the routines would be FABULOUS!


  12. Ilona M (unregistered) on September 26th, 2007 @ 3:10 pm

    Kai…. I think you should be ashamed at yourself. the man is an amazing coach. He has my respect no matter what. I don’t beleive it. Neil has built his career from top to bottum… he has endured much dept for his love of coaching. What now… this entire thing discredits his name and title as a fantastic coach…. not in my book… I will do everything in my power to make sure he is gets what he has worked so hard for. Neil is the best coach I have ever had… I stand by my coach. He is the best thing thats happened to our squad!!!


  13. holly (unregistered) on September 26th, 2007 @ 6:01 pm

    If this was your friend, son, brother, etc you probably wouldn’t make such “funny” comments about the finger in the pie. I knew Neil very well during our time at college and he’s a great guy. However, I’m not surprised at his situation since he was always a player and a real smooth talker. On the other hand, what kind of girl is this that would go to her coaches apartment and have sex? Her parents should be partly to blame. She’s their kid.


  14. NewPDXer (unregistered) on September 26th, 2007 @ 6:23 pm

    I’m with most of you on this issue. Sure what this guy did was wrong on so many levels but the girl and her parents should take part of the blame as well. I don’t know all the specifics but from what I can tell she is not exactly the helpless “victim” that she’s being portrayed to be in the media. Give me a break!

    On a related note, KPTV FOX12 will probably issue a CHEERLEADER MOLESTER ALERT tonight at 10.


  15. HOLLY (unregistered) on September 27th, 2007 @ 7:47 am

    I agree with NEWPDXR. This sort of thing happened to my cousin and his girlfriend a few years ago. The two were consentually having sex and a couple years later the girl’s mom decided to be a @%$^! and press charges. Probably out of embarrassment that her daughter was a slut. It’s just stupid. I am a private vocal coach where I live and I understand how important it is to keep the trust of your students and their parents. Really bad move on Neil’s part. But given the number of times this happened, it sounds like she was having a great time.


  16. Kai (unregistered) on September 27th, 2007 @ 12:21 pm

    OMD ILONA M, like I just checked out your MySpace page. Ummmmm, I can’t really figure out how I should be ashamed of myself.


  17. Kai (unregistered) on September 27th, 2007 @ 12:24 pm

    Oops sorry ILONA M. I meant OMG not Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark.


  18. Kai (unregistered) on September 27th, 2007 @ 12:35 pm

    One other comment. I’m not trying to make light of the situation which I think is abhorrent, but I find it increasingly disturbing that some of the people commenting are supporting a sleazeball that had sex with one of the cheerleaders he was coaching. It could be consentual, maybe she is a “slut”, whatever. Neil knew the rules and the boundaries and chose to make the decision to step over them. If he’s a player maybe there’s also some history of date rape that people just brushed under the rug as well because he’s obviously such a stand up guy. WTF!!! It was wrong on both sides and unfortunately if he’s such an asshat he deserves to be made fun of.


  19. Daaaaave (unregistered) on September 27th, 2007 @ 2:31 pm

    Age of consent in virtually every country in Europe would make this legal, depending on your view of the level of guardianship expected from a cheerleading coach.


  20. Neil supporter (unregistered) on September 27th, 2007 @ 8:09 pm

    Neil has the biggest heart of anybody i know. he loved his job as a coach because he was making a positive difference in these kids lives. he worked extremely hard to build up his professionalism because he knew what being a straight male cheerleader could be seen as. I know that these alligations are not true for many many reasons, and would love to explain how i know, but i can’t. the truth will come out and you will feel like a complete jackass.


  21. Bruce (unregistered) on September 28th, 2007 @ 4:34 pm

    You Rock Neil!
    We all love you.and……….You Da Man!
    Can you post some pixs?


  22. VCA Mom (unregistered) on September 29th, 2007 @ 2:10 pm

    Neil Finger is a great person. You all, bashing a guy that you have never met, should feel ashamed of yourself. What ever happened to “innocent until proven guilty”? The allogations are not a proven fact. Neil has always run his gym with dignity and respect. The girls have strict rules that they have to adhere to regarding propriety and integrity. He is extremely aware of the dangers of a male coach being around so many underage girls. This very thing is a threat that is over his head every day. Still, he has chosen to devote his life’s work to trail this next generation of athele’s, teaching them teamwork, friendship, hard work, determination, and endurance. I spend 10-15 hours a week in his gym with my daughters, there has never been even one single time that he has acted in any sort of questionable manner. Neil is a role model for these girls and boys and he takes that very seriously. The media, and the public are so thirsty for gossip and immorality that they have condemmed a man, and totally ruined his entire future even if he is exonerated, based upon unproven allogations. I, along with many other VCA parents, will support Neil Finger as he has always supported our athletes.


  23. mia (unregistered) on October 4th, 2007 @ 3:52 pm

    Fingered by finger?


  24. supportneil (unregistered) on October 5th, 2007 @ 9:53 pm

    Thanks for all of those that are standing up for Neil. It means a lot from someone that knows him well…He has put his sweat into that gym and deals with a lot of hardship with long hours and finances for everyone there. for the rest of you, you really need to learn what it means to get a life… yeah, your own… got that kai? if the only thing you have to do is bash someone you dont know and try to think of clever (and very idiodic) things to say about his name… you seriously need to look in the mirror and figure out where you went wrong in life. Try doing something good in life, like neil has done with the gym.


  25. LittleBirdie (unregistered) on October 9th, 2007 @ 1:16 am

    When I was a teenager I had relationships with older men. It wasn’t a big deal back then in the early 80’s. Neil is very handsome and I can see how a beautiful teenage girl could seduce a good looking guy like that. He really believed that he was going to get away with it. There’s probably others. He would have gotten away with it if the girl hadn’t written her deepest secrets in her diary. I have inside information and I know for a fact that the woman that went to court to support Neil got a phone call from him after he watched himself on the news. He told her to “keep her mouth shut” and he wasn’t very nice about it. What a great guy! His only supporter and he kicked her to the curb! Those that support Neil should be in court tomorrow morning. Go and see how nice he really is or isn’t. That boy is on his way to bankruptcy and/or jail.


  26. Friend (unregistered) on October 9th, 2007 @ 8:49 am

    Another supporter for Neil. Neil has been a positive influence in many lives. Our thoughts and prayers are with him.


  27. Newsie .H. (unregistered) on October 9th, 2007 @ 4:27 pm

    OMG

    that was my cheerleading coach! I”m 11 and if u knew hime be for you heard that gross news u would think that he was a nice person… and y r u so mean? his rep is already trashsed can’t u just leave hime alone! don’t kick someone who is already on the ground!


  28. Jessica (unregistered) on October 9th, 2007 @ 6:17 pm

    Ok.. So Neil helped out over at the Eastside Cheer Academy sister of VCA. He helped me with many of my skills and technique and never once did I feel as if he was a sexual threat by any means!! I support you Neil~~
    J~


  29. dieselboi (unregistered) on October 9th, 2007 @ 7:28 pm

    Littlebirdie believes it is ok for older men to date and have sexual relations with girls under 18 because he is “very handsome.”

    That is just horrible. He is an adult and trusted with these children. He should know better and there is no excuse for what he is being accused of. Hey, all you supporters, if the charges are indeed dropped and he is cleared, we’ll report it here. Just remember if he gets convicted that you were defending a sex offender.


  30. neil supporter (unregistered) on October 9th, 2007 @ 11:15 pm

    he won’t be convicted! he’s innocent. like i said, i know this for a fact. so you just wait… try not to make judgments when you don’t know him or know if he’s guilty of not. i have always tried to not be a judgemental person, but after this i will try my hardest to never jump to judging anybody that i do not know ever again. thanks for everybody who knows neil for being behind him!!!


  31. LittleBirdie (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 2:27 am

    Neil IS handsome and I’m just keeping things real here. NEWS ALERT!!! Teenagers have sex! Even ugly teenagers can get laid. Some teenagers have sex with adults. It is what it is. Not all parents keep tabs on what their kids do when they’re away from the house or the parents are away from the house. This teenage girl isn’t his only victim. There are others but they are being influenced by others to keep their mouths shut. Peer pressure sucks! Some are too embarassed. Some are already adults and don’t see the point in coming forward because nobody got hurt and their secrets stayed secrets. Bottom line is, Neil is a sex offender and those that love him, respect him, support him, lust after him and have slept with him should show their support. Go to court and show him how much you think he’s innocent. I dare you! It makes me wonder if his actual girlfriend is standing by his side? Yes, he did have/has a girlfriend, that’s of legal age, while he was banging that teenage cheerleader. When this is over with you’ll see this man in the future and keep on walking. In due time the truth shall set you free!!! Be thankful that ignorance is bliss.


  32. HOLLY (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 7:09 am

    For heaven’s sake people, get a life. I’m glad a lot of you Neil supporters are writing here, but the rest of you that DON’T know him…Get a life. Wow. Honestly. Is this all you have to do with your time? Make fun of people in dire situations? Think about it. Would you like people doing this to you? Let’s hope we all get the opportunity to return the favor to all of you jerks.


  33. 150% supporter! (unregistered) on October 10th, 2007 @ 11:08 am

    i know the girl he was with him throughout all of this, and she is behind him. all the way. just FYI!


  34. Jeremy (unregistered) on October 11th, 2007 @ 2:26 pm

    Neil and I have been great friends since we were kids. We were best friends in highschool and roomates in college. I have always known him to be a good guy. When I first heard this news I just prayed that it wasn’t true. Neil comes from a great family that taught him how to treat women with respect. Neil was free to make his own choices after that and I can’t say I know what happened. I am going to let the judicial system figure out whether he is guilty or not. How this ends up is irrelevant at this point the career is over either way and he is going to need a helping hand. Neil is going to need real friends now, people that love him and want to help. I hope that I can be one of those. Wouldn’t you want the same?


  35. I know better!! (unregistered) on October 12th, 2007 @ 7:35 am

    I KNOW BETTER…he has done this before! He’ll do it again!


  36. I know better!! (unregistered) on October 12th, 2007 @ 7:36 am

    I KNOW BETTER…he has done this before! He’ll do it again!


  37. -~Newsie .H.~- (agian) (unregistered) on October 13th, 2007 @ 6:34 pm

    I LOVE VCA MORE THAN ANYTHING
    and I read on a news website that he wa shuting VCA down and selling it, is that ture?

    and for all you jerks saying bad things about coach Neil then SHUT UP! I”m sure if we opened your closet we wouldn’t just find 1 or 2 skelotons but a hole cematary so SHUT UP losers!

    and gor everybody who knows coach Neil and knows he’s not the kind of guy who would do something like that HI FIVE I wish I go go back 2 VCA and but up some signs on the door saying coach Neil ROCKS and inacent intill proven guilty and don’t kick somebody who already on the ground.

    I remember cheerleading camp at the hilton hotel, remember they put duck tape on our doors so we wouldn’t go sneek off and TP the hotel LOL

    and I remember all the awesome competions that was so much fun!


  38. -~Newsie .H.~- (agian) (unregistered) on October 13th, 2007 @ 6:52 pm

    I LOVE VCA MORE THAN ANYTHING
    and I read on a news website that he wa shuting VCA down and selling it, is that ture?

    and for all you jerks saying bad things about coach Neil then SHUT UP! I”m sure if we opened your closet we wouldn’t just find 1 or 2 skelotons but a hole cematary so SHUT UP losers!

    and gor everybody who knows coach Neil and knows he’s not the kind of guy who would do something like that HI FIVE I wish I go go back 2 VCA and but up some signs on the door saying coach Neil ROCKS and inacent intill proven guilty and don’t kick somebody who already on the ground.

    I remember cheerleading camp at the hilton hotel, remember they put duck tape on our doors so we wouldn’t go sneek off and TP the hotel LOL

    and I remember all the awesome competions that was so much fun!


  39. Lindsey (unregistered) on October 13th, 2007 @ 8:41 pm

    I also grew up with Neil and actually dated him for several years off and on through college until I met someone else and got married. Neil is not perfect, nor am I, nor is anyone else on this site. But what I do know is that he NEVER disrespected me, violated me, or anything else as such when we were together. He even waited a month before he kissed me for the first time. I know that I only speak of my own experience with him, but he showed me what kind of person he really is and I have no reason to deter from it. I do not know the truth of all things, though, but I hope that people will stand by the system and let him remain innocent until proven guilty.
    And FYI, he is not some sleezo that just decided to open up a cheerleading gym to get close to girls, he has been involved in this sport/tumbling/gymnastics since he was in grade school and he loved doing it. It had nothing to do with the girls. Ask anyone, the way to get to a girl is not to say that you are a Male Cheerleader, he always got a lot of flack for that! He just loved the sport!


  40. -~Newsie .H.~- (agian) (unregistered) on October 14th, 2007 @ 10:16 am

    2 lindsey=

    YOU GO GIRL!



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